Can a Super Fast NVMe Drive Help Your Video Editing?

Can a Super Fast NVMe Drive Help Your Video Editing?



everybody's dave dugdale learning video.com so I wanted to do three comparisons one with a mechanical hard drive or regular SSD and the newer really fast MVM II drives this first s I'm going to be doing is on the O drive and the O drive is a regular hard drive Western Digital and I'm playing a 4k X AVC footage on a 4k timeline you can see it's coming around 10 Meg Reed and we're going on to red epic footage 5 K on a 4k timeline it's coming around 3035 it's bounced around Reed speeds on this and then we got four streams of xaxa BCS footage you can see it's bouncing around around 35 Meg per second there is a little bit of drop frames going on there it's around 30 to 35 and then we go to here this is really hard this is red epic red dragon 4.6 mini Ursa all raw footage you can see that the CPU is only got 20 like 29 30 percent but the the disk drive is maxing out around 90 95 Meg so the bottleneck here is not the CPU it's definitely the mechanical hard drive in test number one and just for kicks I ran a rendering test on this one-minute file you could see here the CPU is bounced around about 50 to 80 percent and the Oh Dr is maxing out read speeds around a heart and 30 Meg and if finished I believe if I remember correctly it was 154 yeah 150 for a minute and 54 seconds to render that file before we go on to the last two tests I just want to basically say this is mostly about these questions I have are about video editing it's about drop frames and rendering speed nothing really else this is not about transferring files how fast your computer will boot up if you have like an nvme Drive this is not about like using a separate drive for a scratch Drive or anything like that now everybody's system is different my system is extremely powerful I've got 16 cores overclocked to 1080 Ti I'm using resolve if you're using something like Premiere Pro or some other NLE you're gonna probably get different results but I'm gonna guess they're gonna be similar all I'm doing here is swapping out the media or the media drive where all the media is contained I'm not changing my scratch drive not changing my expert drive I'm not changing my operating system at all so I took a poll this morning it's only four hours old 125 volts and I'm surprised when I asked the question how many drives you use when you video you're doing video editing like a hard drive and SSD MB me for you're like operating system your meteor scratch driver export Drive alright so going on to the next test this is the SSD 850 Pro it's my 2 terabyte drives this is how I normally have my system set up and as you can see it's about 10 Meg on the X a VCS footage then we go to 30 to 35 read speed on the red epic 5k footage and going on to this one the four streams there's no drop frames but you'll notice that the read speed definitely went up before it was only 32 to 35 now it's hitting 40 and there's no drop frames here and then we go into the very heavy raw footage you can see definitely it's maxing out you can see the CPU is at a hundred percent but the drive is only at 310 it has more Headroom this Drive can do 500 Meg so the bottleneck here is the CPU and it's not the hard drive even on this really complex stuff that we've got going on here so I went ahead and I also rendered this out as you can see this towards the end of the render and it finished at 127 so moving on to the mdme drive 960 pro we're looking at it's located on my scratch drive for this particular test you can see the four streams are doing like 40 Meg there's no dropped frames she looks good on every single frame so which is pretty amazing you got for 4k footage and it's doing that then we garden the complicated stuff the raw footage you can see the read speeds are a little bit higher than they were there constantly above 300 for the most part it dips down into two hundreds a little bit but for the most part the staying up in the 300s so it's a little bit of difference between the nvme drive and the regular SSD 2 terabyte drive that I normally use and this one when I was doing the rendering also came in at like 127 so rendering speed wise it was exactly the same in terms of rendering out all right so the big takeaways here is I don't think you really need an nvme drive for video editing like what I'm doing here I'm not talking about After Effects I'm not talking about 3d rendering or anything like that the type of stuff that I've just demonstrated here the second takeaway is that neccessity is much better than a regular hard drive that was pretty obvious from these tests and the bottleneck I think here is really the cpu and I've got a 16 core overclock at 4.2 4.3 gig and really that's the bottleneck if I had maybe 32 cores and it could send more information to the hard drives faster like instead of sending only 300 Meg to the hard drives it could be sending like 800 900 Meg and then we would see a difference I think we would see less choppy footage and we see we would see faster rendering times and the last one is I just threw this in is you don't really need an SSD for an expert Drive even resolve and I did this in Premiere Perl years ago I've looked at how much stuff is being written to the hard drive as you're rendering it and it's usually just around 12 10 or 12 Meg and an regular hard drive could handle it the only reason I'm using this is D is just for transferring files it's just transfers files much faster so that's pretty much it I guess if you wanted to save little money you're doing video editing you don't really need an nvme yes you'll have faster boot times or if you're doing a searching for a file on your hard drive things are gonna happen a lot snappier with an nvme drive but again I was just looking at the instance of just swapping out the media drive I wasn't talking about the scratch drive at all that's kind of a different subject all together so that's pretty much it I'll talk to you guys later bye

29 thoughts on “Can a Super Fast NVMe Drive Help Your Video Editing?”

  1. hi im new to this. if i plan to do premiere and i have a) 1TB SSD b) 1TB SSD NVME c) 6TB HDD …. where should i place the OS/Premiere program/scratch disc/cache ? (the 6TB HDD will house my 4K video files from my osmo pocket/action/etc)

  2. perfect test answering all my questions thanks. will you do a similar premiere performance comparison between a thin loptop with no dedicated gpu or with a slow gpu (such as mx150) that will throttle down in such small laptops and a desktop with a beefy gpu such as gtx 1080. thanks

  3. Dave! some of us own a Mini-ATX case in which there aint room for SSDs. The question is do Davinci Resolve benefits from extreme speeds (3500b/s read or 2500 m/s write) during live playback, rendering, etc?

  4. I have two Samsung 850Pro SSDs in RAID 0 for my source files. I get so many dropped frames when editing 4K Sony files – almost unusable in the timeline. My CPU (i7-6700) is not at 100% too. So what do I need to improve in my system? Thanks!

  5. Thanks for the post ! Nice discussion below 🙂 my 2700x build nearly complete and my question about one nvme vs 2 on main board makes sense , starting out will be using 2 BPX Pro from MyDigitalSSD . I was planning on just using 2 480GB sticks one for O/S and one for capture/edit but now thinking I'll need to use the 480GB for the O/S and a 960GB for the capture . I'm redoing all my Stargate DVD and Blurays not happy with the torrents edits available online.

  6. NVMe is great for long read and write sessions. PCIe will throttle back to SATA speeds after about 13 seconds. NVMe has a dedicated pathway to the CPU. PCIe share all the remaining pathways with everything else. Unless you motherboard has two dedicated M2 slots (most don't), using the second M2 slot with an NVMe drive will compromise its performance and you might as well get a SATA. I think a little more homework, on your part, is in order and more information on your setup. It does make a difference.

  7. Dave I can't believe you don't know what's going on here. Please give me a space to explain. Hard drives are not the bottle neck as nvme drives transfer at 3200 MB/S. When you encode, render, etc. Your cpu can only process so much speed at once, this is the bottle neck. However where nvme drives are going to help is in the scrubbing in the timeline and overall speed and responsiveness in the footage. If you are trying to scrub through a 100GB video file. It's impossible to do this without lag on a standard ssd. With the amazing transfer speed of the nvme you won't have the same lag in performance. You were right in your video. But this is the main benefit to nvme, file transfer speed and responsiveness of the entire program if you have two nvme drives ( one for storage of files and cache and the other for the operating system, and software.) File transfer between the two will be amazing and speed up your workflow.

  8. I use 4 drives 1) NVME OS and Images and shadow files , 2) SSD Short Video Captures 3 HD Video Files Large 4 Finished Produced Projects.

    The NVME will help when manually scrolling thru footage ( My Shadow Files are stored in the NVME) the faster the NVME drive the smoother it looks and less dropped frames. Is it "Needed" not really. I was surprised even with 16 cores the CPU was the bottleneck. I guess when the Thread ripper 32 core comes out it may change. Imagine being able to render at 3000Mhz write speed on a NVME. Of even better 28GBPS off a Raid Zero NVME drive. (Debauers video) The bottlenecks are finally being eliminated. SSD is still way cheaper.

  9. I export video from No Limits Coaster Simulation 2 at 4K 60FPS. The game actually renders the frames sequentially instead of in real-time so the game almost appears to pause while exporting to my WD black.

    Any way of knowing if a higher write speed SSD will decrease the time for the game to do this? The uncrompressed AVI is a very large file before putting it into Premiere. I feel like the CPU is still the bottlneck here – 6800K at 4GHz.

  10. I currently have a pm951 m.2 NVMe for my alienware 15r2 laptop. Will upgrading to a samsung pro 970 help in editing, or is speed limited by my cpu/gpu? I'm looking to get smoother previews in Vegas 14.

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